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If a domain deletes and is removed from the zone, ergo, becoming available again, some registrars have a buffer period before they show it as available again.It does not appear that Felons.io had ever been registered before, which makes this case pretty strange.In my experience though, lookups are more complex than most think. If a domain deletes and is removed from the zone, ergo, becoming available again, some registrars have a buffer period before they show it as available again.It does not appear that Felons.io had ever been registered before, which makes this case pretty strange.In addition to registry connection reliability, there are also many different aftermarket sources that registrars often pull from. If a domain deletes and is removed from the zone, ergo, becoming available again, some registrars have a buffer period before they show it as available again.It does not appear that Felons.io had ever been registered before, which makes this case pretty strange.Lastly, you have to consider that some registrars handle the "drop window" differently than others. If a domain deletes and is removed from the zone, ergo, becoming available again, some registrars have a buffer period before they show it as available again.It does not appear that Felons.io had ever been registered before, which makes this case pretty strange.It does not appear that Felons.io had ever been registered before, which makes this case pretty strange. I only used godaddy once because I couldn't get the tld on namecheap.I use namecheap for dozens of domains. They all have a very similar format, e.g. pretending you missed a delivery, and try to get you to click on a link, usually a .info domain.They are all hosted on Alibaba Cloud, but they are registered in bulk via Namecheap. Your legal and abuse team says they have no obligation to prevent such registrations, but to instead take it up with the FTC or the hosting, both of which do nothing either.Here's a recent article about the problem with bulk registrations and spam: https://www.spamhaus.org/news/article/795/weaponizing-domain...edit: I highly recommend reading the article for more context on why bulk domain registration is problematic. Note the DOJ filed a temporary restraining order again Namecheap, and the office of the NY AG also contacted them due to their role in spam and scams.To address some of the questions and comments below:> A registrar is simple: request a domain, they check you match the requirement for said domain rules, take your money and register the domain for you. Clearly there needs to be some level of regulation.> do they have any obligation to investigate the purouse people want to use the domains forDo domain hosts have any obligation to investigate what people are hosting? There are clearly multiple parties to hosting content on the web, and it's a shared responsibility to keep folks doing the right thing> Are you asking Namecheap to take unilateral action against domain registrations with no due process?No - what makes you think that's what I was asking?They are all hosted on Alibaba Cloud, but they are registered in bulk via Namecheap. Your legal and abuse team says they have no obligation to prevent such registrations, but to instead take it up with the FTC or the hosting, both of which do nothing either.Here's a recent article about the problem with bulk registrations and spam: https://www.spamhaus.org/news/article/795/weaponizing-domain...edit: I highly recommend reading the article for more context on why bulk domain registration is problematic. Note the DOJ filed a temporary restraining order again Namecheap, and the office of the NY AG also contacted them due to their role in spam and scams.To address some of the questions and comments below:> A registrar is simple: request a domain, they check you match the requirement for said domain rules, take your money and register the domain for you. Clearly there needs to be some level of regulation.> do they have any obligation to investigate the purouse people want to use the domains forDo domain hosts have any obligation to investigate what people are hosting? There are clearly multiple parties to hosting content on the web, and it's a shared responsibility to keep folks doing the right thing> Are you asking Namecheap to take unilateral action against domain registrations with no due process?No - what makes you think that's what I was asking?Here's a recent article about the problem with bulk registrations and spam: https://www.spamhaus.org/news/article/795/weaponizing-domain...edit: I highly recommend reading the article for more context on why bulk domain registration is problematic. Note the DOJ filed a temporary restraining order again Namecheap, and the office of the NY AG also contacted them due to their role in spam and scams.To address some of the questions and comments below:> A registrar is simple: request a domain, they check you match the requirement for said domain rules, take your money and register the domain for you. Clearly there needs to be some level of regulation.> do they have any obligation to investigate the purouse people want to use the domains forDo domain hosts have any obligation to investigate what people are hosting? There are clearly multiple parties to hosting content on the web, and it's a shared responsibility to keep folks doing the right thing> Are you asking Namecheap to take unilateral action against domain registrations with no due process?No - what makes you think that's what I was asking?edit: I highly recommend reading the article for more context on why bulk domain registration is problematic. Note the DOJ filed a temporary restraining order again Namecheap, and the office of the NY AG also contacted them due to their role in spam and scams.To address some of the questions and comments below:> A registrar is simple: request a domain, they check you match the requirement for said domain rules, take your money and register the domain for you. Clearly there needs to be some level of regulation.> do they have any obligation to investigate the purouse people want to use the domains forDo domain hosts have any obligation to investigate what people are hosting? There are clearly multiple parties to hosting content on the web, and it's a shared responsibility to keep folks doing the right thing> Are you asking Namecheap to take unilateral action against domain registrations with no due process?No - what makes you think that's what I was asking?To address some of the questions and comments below:> A registrar is simple: request a domain, they check you match the requirement for said domain rules, take your money and register the domain for you. Clearly there needs to be some level of regulation.> do they have any obligation to investigate the purouse people want to use the domains forDo domain hosts have any obligation to investigate what people are hosting? There are clearly multiple parties to hosting content on the web, and it's a shared responsibility to keep folks doing the right thing> Are you asking Namecheap to take unilateral action against domain registrations with no due process?No - what makes you think that's what I was asking?> A registrar is simple: request a domain, they check you match the requirement for said domain rules, take your money and register the domain for you. Clearly there needs to be some level of regulation.> do they have any obligation to investigate the purouse people want to use the domains forDo domain hosts have any obligation to investigate what people are hosting? There are clearly multiple parties to hosting content on the web, and it's a shared responsibility to keep folks doing the right thing> Are you asking Namecheap to take unilateral action against domain registrations with no due process?No - what makes you think that's what I was asking?Where do you draw the line on this? Clearly there needs to be some level of regulation.> do they have any obligation to investigate the purouse people want to use the domains forDo domain hosts have any obligation to investigate what people are hosting? There are clearly multiple parties to hosting content on the web, and it's a shared responsibility to keep folks doing the right thing> Are you asking Namecheap to take unilateral action against domain registrations with no due process?No - what makes you think that's what I was asking?> do they have any obligation to investigate the purouse people want to use the domains forDo domain hosts have any obligation to investigate what people are hosting? There are clearly multiple parties to hosting content on the web, and it's a shared responsibility to keep folks doing the right thing> Are you asking Namecheap to take unilateral action against domain registrations with no due process?No - what makes you think that's what I was asking?Do domain hosts have any obligation to investigate what people are hosting? There are clearly multiple parties to hosting content on the web, and it's a shared responsibility to keep folks doing the right thing> Are you asking Namecheap to take unilateral action against domain registrations with no due process?No - what makes you think that's what I was asking?> Are you asking Namecheap to take unilateral action against domain registrations with no due process?No - what makes you think that's what I was asking?No - what makes you think that's what I was asking? A registrar is simple: request a domain, they check you match the requirement for said domain rules, take your money and register the domain for you. Very simple, very stupid, very non-opiniated.If registrars start deciding who is worthy of domains, what arbitrary set of rules they want you to follow on top of the real ones, what set of laws they act as judge for ... Things would go wrong insanely quickly.If the price of that is that they let abusers through too then fine, they're not the justice department either way and if they apply the judicial decision once those abusers are caught, that's all we should ask from them.If registrars start deciding who is worthy of domains, what arbitrary set of rules they want you to follow on top of the real ones, what set of laws they act as judge for ... I just miss .SE domains, I have quite a few of them and would really like to move them over to Namecheap. The reasons I transferred to Google Domains are:* I found the interface easier to use: fewer clicks to DNS, email, etc.* The features are easily visible* Auto-verification in GCPI understand, of course, if you can't deal with or prioritize any of these. Your understanding is incorrect.There are no issues with registering a domain via Namecheap when your users are in India (or anywhere else).Once you've registered a domain, you can use any nameservers that you like -- regardless of their geographical location. You could use the free DNS service Namecheap includes with your domain registration, nameservers from the provider of your choice in India, or something like AWS Route 53, Cloudflare, or Google DNS, which all use anycast and have DNS servers around the globe (I don't know which of them, if any, have servers specifically in India, however).There are no issues with registering a domain via Namecheap when your users are in India (or anywhere else).Once you've registered a domain, you can use any nameservers that you like -- regardless of their geographical location. You could use the free DNS service Namecheap includes with your domain registration, nameservers from the provider of your choice in India, or something like AWS Route 53, Cloudflare, or Google DNS, which all use anycast and have DNS servers around the globe (I don't know which of them, if any, have servers specifically in India, however).Once you've registered a domain, you can use any nameservers that you like -- regardless of their geographical location. You could use the free DNS service Namecheap includes with your domain registration, nameservers from the provider of your choice in India, or something like AWS Route 53, Cloudflare, or Google DNS, which all use anycast and have DNS servers around the globe (I don't know which of them, if any, have servers specifically in India, however). Then again, I don't know if I'd care to interview someone who makes such large decisions based on small details with no context.It would pain me to find out that a candidate would red flag the company based on domain registrar. I'm technically competent but have one domain on GoDaddy for a startup I'm handling.See, the domain we wanted was after market, and the purchase deal was done through a service that requires GD as the registrar.So, after $12000 for the domain, we have to wait before we can transfer into our AWS.See, the domain we wanted was after market, and the purchase deal was done through a service that requires GD as the registrar.So, after $12000 for the domain, we have to wait before we can transfer into our AWS.So, after $12000 for the domain, we have to wait before we can transfer into our AWS. I typically don't use them by choice (I actually like the AWS admin for DNS, but they aren't cheap - I probably need to check out other services like NameCheap).But I don't think it is fair to label them technically incompetent, when it is not uncommon to get shanghai'd by accident (maybe that's what you mean by technically incompetent - but frankly if it burns more than 1 hour of my time to fix - I leave it alone because I have other priorities. I like Porkbun quite a bit but sometimes Namecheap is cheaper or it’s easier to just add to that account.I think I can proudly say I’ve never used GoDaddy as a registrar, but I’ve been with some bad ones over the last 20 years so I can’t claim full moral high ground either.I think I can proudly say I’ve never used GoDaddy as a registrar, but I’ve been with some bad ones over the last 20 years so I can’t claim full moral high ground either. You get free email forwarding (even wildcard), free domain privacy, free website forwarding (with ssl), Google infrastructure behind all of that and the authoritative DNS they offer.Cloudflare also offers a registrar service and its good.Cloudflare also offers a registrar service and its good. .org/.info/.net to .com is small but handy thing.Last time I registered 3 domains with GD 3 months ago there was no promo give-away prices for the first year. But without almost free prices to "reserve" a domain dealing with GD makes no more sense.One good thing about GD is that domain transferring from them to Google takes couple of clicks and is pretty fast. I did not have to leave my PC during the process - couple of page refreshes.Last time I registered 3 domains with GD 3 months ago there was no promo give-away prices for the first year. But without almost free prices to "reserve" a domain dealing with GD makes no more sense.One good thing about GD is that domain transferring from them to Google takes couple of clicks and is pretty fast. I did not have to leave my PC during the process - couple of page refreshes.One good thing about GD is that domain transferring from them to Google takes couple of clicks and is pretty fast. I use gandi.net because every domain includes email hosting. To make it more clear, if you need a domain which is registered in godaddy and has privacy protection enabled, please do not pay money to godaddy to broker a deal on behalf of you with the existing domain owner. As a PSA to everyone, you should only ever use whois in a terminal window to see if a domain is available.It's included with macOS, Windows (?), Linux or any other OS anyone's likely to use. It seems you can download it free here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/whoi...]I guess ICANN's lookup tool (https://lookup.icann.org/) is probably more trustworthy than commercially operated ones; it would be a terrible look for them to engage in this practice.But I always feel much safer using whois in a terminal than any website that can see what I'm searching for.It's included with macOS, Windows (?), Linux or any other OS anyone's likely to use. Because when I went to register the .com originally and backed out at the last minute to give myself time to setup a PO Box (didn't like the ICANN publicly displaying my mailing address), I came back two days later and noticed that someone had registered the .com domain. > You could be right that it's Google, but I doubt they would risk a scandal to make a few bucks like that.I think this HN thread has shown that it seems to be something of an open secret among domain registrars, so I'm not sure it would necessarily be a "scandal", particular given how hard it would be for me to prove it.I think this HN thread has shown that it seems to be something of an open secret among domain registrars, so I'm not sure it would necessarily be a "scandal", particular given how hard it would be for me to prove it. I'm not saying they didn't do it, but I base my opinions on facts, not speculation or "they've been doing it for years".I'm just not seeing any evidence in the WHOIS record that GoDaddy registered that domain--it could have been one of their customers.I'm just not seeing any evidence in the WHOIS record that GoDaddy registered that domain--it could have been one of their customers. Engage in every nasty sleazeball tactic.I've seen this cycle many times, starting with Network Solutions.People use GoDaddy because they were the good alternative for a while.* Once you've got a ton of customers, turn evil, and milk your customer-base for all they've got. Most of the non-tech people I know are running to GoDaddy when they have to register a domain for their business/project, because they are almost the only ones doing widespread advertising.

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